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November 23, 2003 e-NEWS, Issue No. 14

IN THIS ISSUE:

o        Next Regional Meeting Scheduled for Saturday, January 31, 2004…Dick Freeman will be our Keynote Speaker

o        All-time Padres Team…Our Thoughts!

o        We Thought You’d Never Ask…Nicknames by Position

o        Extra Base Hits…Some Facts, Some Trivia

o        Allan Roth (LA) SABR Chapter News…Regional Meeting Scheduled for Saturday, February 7, 2004

o        Chapter Members in the News

o        Catchers ERA (CERA)

o        Member John Nunes Article in Elysian Fields Quarterly

o        Baseball Biography Project…New Website

o        Thinking About the Holidays…How About Some Baseball Gift Cards?

o        SABR Deadball Era Committee

o        More Re: Deadball Stars

 

 

NEXT REGIONAL MEETING…

“SUPER BOWL SATURDAY,” JANUARY 31, 2004

We have another loaded program with plenty of variety.  Leading off will be our keynote speaker, Dick Freeman, President of the San Diego Padres.  We are fortunate to have Dick join us and give us the latest in developments for the 2004 ballclub, and an update on Petco Park.

 

On tap are a couple of members who have research presentations: Amy Essington will update us on her research related to "Integration of the Pacific Coast League in San Diego, 1948" and, as an introduction to the subject, Bill Swank will offer a personal biography of the late San Diegan, and former PCL Padres player, John Ritchey.  We also have brought back after a few year’s absence, Andy McCue and his popular baseball “Books on Parade.”  Andy also serves SABR in a variety of ways, notably as a Board member and chair of the Bibliography Committee.

 

The specific starting time and location are still being worked out.  However, you can plan on our meeting time being 9:30 a.m. as usual.  Watch for final details in our next e-News. 

 

 

ALL-TIME PADRES TEAM…

OUR THOUGHTS!

Chapter members Frank Myers and Jay Walker led our Chapter’s efforts in coming up with our version of the All-Time Padres as they closed out their final season in Qualcomm Stadium.  Their resulting article was produced in the September issue of Padres Magazine.  In case you didn’t obtain a copy, below is the article.  We have also inserted the vote results from the fans after each of our Chapter’s selections. 

“Who is SABR and why do their selections of all-time Padres get their own article? SABR (pronounced saber) stands for the Society for American Baseball Research, a group founded in 1971 that has grown to over 6,000 strong.  While SABR encourages research into all facets of baseball and will gladly accept the mathematically challenged as members, it has a reputation as something of a gathering place for the statistically nerdy, er, adept fans.  If you holler out  “Bring in the lefty to face Bonds”  and someone two rows down says “Actually our lefty is a ground ball inducer and Bonds hit 56% more dingers off ground ball pitchers than fly ball pitchers”, you’ve probably just encountered a SABR member.  

When the Padres distributed ballots to their fans to select an all-time Padres team, the 100+ members of the local SABR chapter were also invited to apply their methods and choose their own version of the Padres dream team.  After ballpark-effect-adjusting this and normalizing that and immersing themselves knee-deep in numbers, here is the team they came up with:

Starting Pitcher (3 positions) – A real horse race.  Randy Jones won by acclimation, but battling for place and show were the tightly-bunched pack of Andy Ashby, Andy Benes, Dave Dravecky, Bruce Hurst, Clay Kirby and Eric Show.  The late, enigmatic Show (100 wins as a Padre) emerged by a length as one choice, while Andy Benes was a nose in front of Bruce Hurst for the final spot.

                        Fans’ Selections:

1.        Jones (64.4%)                       5.  Dravecky (21.6%)                            8.  Benes (15.5%)

2.       Brown (45%)                          6.  Show (20.8%)                                   9.  Whitson (10.8%)

3.       Perry (33.4%)                        7.  Hitchcock (20.1%)                           10. Hurst (7.9%)

4.       Ashby (33%)

 

Catcher – this position featured the only player not on the Padres fan ballot to generate some discussion and support, Gene Tenace.  (Wonder why?  Check out his on-base percentage).  But most regard Terry Kennedy and Benito Santiago as the two best catchers in franchise history, and the SABR crew favored Kennedy by a small margin.

                Fans’ Selections:

1.        Santiago (55.8%)                          4.  Kendall (8.5%)

2.       Kennedy (22%)                              5.  Cannizzaro (1.7%)

3.       Hernandez (9.6%)

 

First Base -  Fred McGriff didn’t stay in town long enough (less than 3 years).  The SABR choice went to one of the early Padre stars and still their all-time career home run leader, Nate Colbert.  Consideration of the era (early 70’s) and park factors (no inside home run fence) aided in the choice.  Ryan Klesko’s credentials may exceed Colbert’s in a few years.

                Fans’ Selections:

1.        Garvey (27.4%)                             4.  McGriff (15%)

2.       Klesko (21.2%)                               5.  Joyner (14.5%)

3.       Colbert (20.4%)

 

Second Base - the position with the fewest solid candidates.  Robbie Alomar was just beginning his career, but his 3 years with the Padres prior to his trade to Toronto were deemed sufficient to overcome challenges from Tim Flannery and Bip Roberts. 

                Fans’ Selections:

1.        Alomar (47.8%)                             4.  Roberts (9.9%)

2.       Flannery (22.2%)                           5.  Veras (6.7%)

3.       Wiggins (10.9%)

 

Third Base - this came down to a Ken Caminiti vs. Phil Nevin battle, and Cammy was felt to have a close but clear advantage. 

                Fans’ Selections:

1.        Caminti (52.1%)                             4.  Sheffield (14.1%)

2.       Nevin (14.8%)                                                5.  Spiezio (1.9%)

3.       Nettles (14.6%)

 

Shortstop  - while Ozzie Smith may be in the Hall of Fame, it wasn’t his 4 years as a Padre that got him there.  Brilliant as he was in the field (and many feel there was none better than Oz in a Padre uniform), a composite .230 batting average and .278 slugging average represent a lot of runs that were never scored.  Garry Templeton played solid shortstop for a decade with the Padres and gets the nod.

                Fans’ Selections:

1.        Smith (52.9%)                                               4.  Fernandez (4.9%)

2.       Templeton (30.6%)                       5.  Hernandez (2.8%)

3.       Gomez (7.4%0

 

Outfield (3 positions) - Tony Gwynn and Dave Winfield are no-brainers. The contest for the third spot generated the most heated discussion of the day, and the debate soon narrowed down to Steve Finley vs. Gene Richards.  When the dust had cleared, Richards garnered the final outfield spot by a single vote.  Richards batted .291 in his 7 years as a Padre and ranks 2nd behind Gwynn in Padre career stolen bases.

                Fans’ Selections:

1.        Gwynn (93.1%)                                               5.  Kotsay (16.8%)                 8.  Kruk (7.9%)

2.       Winfield (65.2%)                           6.  Vaughn (14%)                    9.  Richards (5.0%)

3.       Finley (42%)                                  7.  McReynolds (9.8%)          10. Gaston (4.8%)

4.       Henderson (25.3%)

 

Closer - Rollie Fingers and Goose Gossage had some good years with the Padres, but Trevor Hoffman is the clear #1 choice here.

                Fans’ Selections:

1.        Hoffman (77.9%)                          4.  Davis (3.1%)

2.       Fingers (9.5%)                               5.  Lefferts (0.8%)

3.       Gossage (8%)

 

Manager - one participant said his head liked Dick Williams but his heart preferred Bruce Bochy, so he was voting Bochy.  Another one said his head wanted Bochy but his heart liked Williams.  He also was voting Bochy.  While sentiment was there for Williams, the vote was decidedly in Bochy’s favor.”

                Fans’ Selections:

1.        Bochy (64.7%)                                               4.  McNamara (4.5%)

2.       Williams (18.2%)                           5.  Gomez (4.3%)

3.       McKeon (6.4%)

 

So the final All-Time Padres Team, at least the way SABR sees it, and compared to the fans is as follows:

                                    SABR                            Fans’

Starting Pitcher -          Randy Jones                   þ

Starting Pitcher -          Eric Show                     Kevin Brown

Starting Pitcher -          Andy Benes                   Gaylord Perry

Catcher –                      Terry Kennedy              Benito Santiago

First Base –                  Nate Colbert                 Steve Garvey

Second Base –             Roberto Alomar   þ

Third Base –                 Ken Caminiti                    þ

Shortstop –                   Garry Templeton           Ozzie Smith

Outfielder –                 Tony Gwynn                    þ

Outfielder –                 Dave Winfield                þ

Outfielder –                 Gene Richards              SteveFinley

Closer –                        Trevor Hoffman             þ

Manager –                     Bruce Bochy                   þ

 

 

WE THOUGHT YOU’D NEVER ASK…

NICKNAMES BY POSITION

SABR member Frank Solensky frank@SOLENSKY.ORG came up with the frequency of nicknames by position:

 

P:  119 Lefty                   C:  9 Red                        1B:  8 Dutch, Lefty

      17 Red                          4 Dutch, Doc                    5 Red, Moose, Big Bill, Doc

      13 Doc

      11 Dutch

 

2B:  10 Red                     3B:   8 Red                     OF: 15 Red, Lefty

         6 Dutch                         7 Dutch                       10 Doc

         4 Mike, Deacon               5 Rabbit

 

A player is counted at each position played.  Players with multiple nicknames weren't counted as separate entries: it might alter the frequencies a bit but not by a lot.  The nickname 'Stretch' shows up only eight times, five of them being connected to Jack Phillips (1B 1947-49 NY Yankees; 1B, 3B, P 1949-52 Pittsburgh; 1B, 2B, 3B, OF 1955-56 Detroit).

 

EXTRA BASE HITS…

SOME FACTS, SOME TRIVIA

Here are some statistics developed by SABR member Clifford Otto, subs1@OTTOEXEC.ORG, related to extra base hits as a percentage of hits.  Please note that all these numbers were taken from the Lahman 5.0 database and only include stats through 2002, so there could be some changes when the 2003 numbers are included.

 

Players with at least 3000 career hits:

%ExBH   Player                          %ExBH   Player                          %ExBH   Player             

40.30%  Willie Mays                   30.55%  Robin Yount                    24.46%  Pete Rose

39.17%  Hank Aaron                     29.08%  Honus Wagner                24.29%  Tony Gwynn

37.93%  Stan Musial                   28.84%  Paul Waner                    23.99%  Cap Anson

35.48%  George Brett                 28.71%  Paul Molitor                   21.26%  Rod Carew

35.14%  Dave Winfield                 28.62%  Rickey Henderson            20.27%  Eddie Collins

33.86%  Cal Ripken Jr.                 28.20%  Roberto Clemente

33.84%  Carl Yastrzemski            27.82%  Nap Lajoie

33.76%  Eddie Murray                 27.12%  Ty Cobb

32.32%  Al Kaline                        25.67%  Lou Brock

32.19%  Tris Speaker                  25.15%  Wade Boggs

 

Players with at least 2000 career hits and an extra-base hit percentage

of 40%, or better:

%ExBH   Player                          %ExBH   Player

48.74%  Barry Bonds                   41.60%  Reggie Jackson

47.20%  Babe Ruth                      40.52%  Eddie Mathews

45.43%  Mike Schmidt                 40.34%  Joe Carter

43.73%  Lou Gehrig                     40.30%  Frank Robinson

42.82%  Ken Griffey Jr.              40.30%  Willie Mays

42.70%  Willie Stargell               40.23%  Johnny Mize

42.52%  Harmon Killebrew            40.17%  Duke Snider

42.21%  Jimmie Foxx                  

42.09%  Ted Williams                 

41.61%  Willie McCovey               

 

The other end of the spectrum (below 20%) for players with at least 2000

career hits:

%ExBH   Player                          %ExBH   Player

12.56%  Maury Wills                   17.42%  Billy Hamilton

13.23%  Patsy Donovan                 17.68%  Richie Ashburn

14.29%  Willie Keeler                  18.00%  Stuffy McInnis

16.54%  Fred Tenney                    18.73%  Deacon White

16.78%  John Ward                     18.85%  Nellie Fox

17.16%  Larry Bowa                     19.45%  Brett Butler

17.24%  Clyde Milan                     19.68%  Willie Randolph

17.32%  Lloyd Waner

 

Players with at least 10,000 career at bats:

At Bats %ExBH   Player                          At Bats %ExBH   Player

10006   40.30%  Frank Robinson                10195   32.19%  Tris Speaker

10881   40.30%  Willie Mays                     11008   30.55%  Robin Yount

12364   39.17%  Hank Aaron                     10430   29.08%  Honus Wagner

10972   37.93%  Stan Musial                    10654   28.72%  Brooks Robinson

10349   35.48%  George Brett                  10835   28.71%  Paul Molitor

11003   35.14%  Dave Winfield                  10889   28.62%  Rickey Henderson

11551   33.86%  Cal Ripken Jr.                  11434   27.12%  Ty Cobb

11988   33.84%  Carl Yastrzemski             10332   25.67%  Lou Brock

11336   33.76%  Eddie Murray                   14053   24.46%  Pete Rose

10116   32.32%  Al Kaline                         10277   23.99%  Cap Anson

                                                            10078   22.46%  Rabbit Maranville

10230   21.26%  Luis Aparicio

 

The leaders in extra-base percentage for various levels of career at bats, and the number of players exceeding the threshold:

At Bats             40%+    Leader             Player

4000+....             56         51.72%              Mark McGwire

3000-3999         19         49.28%              Carlos Delgado

2000-2999         16         46.84%              Troy Glaus

1000-1999          22         47.02%              Lance Berkman

 500-999           24         53.09%              Bobby Estelella

 

The other end of the spectrum for extra-base percentage for various levels of career at bats, and the number of players below the threshold:

At Bats             <20%    Worst               Player

4000+....               98       10.41%               Roy Thomas

3000-3999           64       11.55%               Mike Tresh

2000-2999          120      9.02%                Morrie Rath

1000-1999           316      7.49%                Dickey Pearce

 500-999            475      1.64%                Ned Garvin

 

 

ALLAN ROTH SABR CHAPTER NEWS…

MEETING SCHEDULED FOR FEBRUARY 7, 2004

Notes from the Roth Chapter’s President, Stephen Roney…”First off, I have scheduled the AAF for a meeting on the first Saturday in February, which is February 7.  This will be the standard 10am to 3pm meeting.  As always, I need research presentations.  Additionally, I will be attempting to acquire a speaker that I can announce in time for the final announcement.

 

 

CHAPTER MEMBERS IN THE NEWS

Andy Strasberg was featured in the September Padres Magazine in an article about his management of the variety of activities related to the last year of Major League baseball in San Diego/Jack Murphy/Qualcomm Stadium.

 

In the Baseball Hall of Fame’s Summer 2003 newsletter, Memories and Dreams, Bob Boynton was recognized for his research contributions to the Hall in their preparation of reference files for each World Series ever played.  Bob helped with those Series games in which the Indians and Padres played.

 

James D. Smith authored an article for the recent SABR publication, The National Pastime, No. 23, entitled “George Brace, Baseball’s Foremost Photographer.”

 

 

CATCHERS ERA (CERA)…

PADRES ERA / GARY BENNETT CERA

Our Chapter received this question from Joey Graziano: “the Padres' staff ERA is currently at 4.91, while Gary Bennett's CERA is only at 3.88 (a 1.03 differential).  Although I'm not sure how much can be read into this, it strikes me as a pretty impressive stat.  Has there ever been a catcher with a CERA a full point lower than their staff ERA?”

 

Coming to the rescue was Chuck Rosciam (baseballcatchers@comcast.net):

A few years ago I began an extensive study of Catcher's Earned Run Average (CERA) using data available from Retrosheet. After a few months I got bogged down in the vast amount of data and put the study on hold. However, I do have almost complete data from 1990-2002 and complete data for some catchers.